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+ | 1850 United States Federal Census''', Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 10. Census dated 1 Aug 1850.<br>Lines 24-31: '''Wm. Hinds''', 37, farmer, $700 real property; Margaret, 26; Richard, 11, at school; William P, 4; Mary, 2; James M., 1; William Ralston, 23, laborer; James ralston, 18, laborer. All b. PA.<br>Three Ralston families surround this farm. | ||
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|'''1860 Federal Census butler Co. PA''', Slippery Rock Twp.. p. 757, Dwelling No. 14. Date of Census: 6th June 1860. William Hines, age 47 male, farmer; Margarite Hines age 35 female; children: William age 14, Mary age 12, James age 10, Lulou age 8, Margaret age 6, George age 5, Robert age 3, Ellene age 1. All born PA. All children except two youngest attended school. | |'''1860 Federal Census butler Co. PA''', Slippery Rock Twp.. p. 757, Dwelling No. 14. Date of Census: 6th June 1860. William Hines, age 47 male, farmer; Margarite Hines age 35 female; children: William age 14, Mary age 12, James age 10, Lulou age 8, Margaret age 6, George age 5, Robert age 3, Ellene age 1. All born PA. All children except two youngest attended school. | ||
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| '''1870 United States Federal Census''', Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 20. Census dated 29 June 1870.<br>Lines 9-20: Wm. Hines, 55, farmer, $2500 real, $795 personal property; Margret, 46, keeping house; Wm., 25, farm labor; Mary E., 22; James, 20, farm labor; Susannah, 18, in school; Margret, 16, in school; Geo. W., 15, farm labor, in school; Robert C., 13, in school; Rebecca, 10, in school; Sarah, 8, in school: John, 4. All born PA. Line 9 lists John, crossed out and Wm. over. Ancestry.com indexes this family name as Henes. | | '''1870 United States Federal Census''', Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 20. Census dated 29 June 1870.<br>Lines 9-20: Wm. Hines, 55, farmer, $2500 real, $795 personal property; Margret, 46, keeping house; Wm., 25, farm labor; Mary E., 22; James, 20, farm labor; Susannah, 18, in school; Margret, 16, in school; Geo. W., 15, farm labor, in school; Robert C., 13, in school; Rebecca, 10, in school; Sarah, 8, in school: John, 4. All born PA. Line 9 lists John, crossed out and Wm. over. Ancestry.com indexes this family name as Henes. | ||
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|'''Butler County Cemetery Inventory, West Liberty Cemetery''', Brady Twp. <br>Hines, Margaret, 07-04-1824, 10-15-1892, Wife of William Hines.<br>Hines, Robert C., 1857 - 1924. <br>Hines, Perry, 1846-1931.<br>Hines, Olive, 1851-1932.<br> Margaret Hines born 7-4-1824, died 10-15-1892, wife of William <br>Robert C. Hines born 1857 died 1924<br>Rebecca Hines d. 03-11-1885, age 41/8/27, wife of Edward Hines. <br> Mary E. Hines d.07-13-1885, daughter of E. & R. Hines.<br> E. Rebecca McDeavitt 1859-1939.<br>John P. Castor, 1858-1927; Sarah M. Castor, 1861-1924; Johnnie Castor, d. 09-28-1897, age 2/4/23, Son of J.P. & S.M. Castor | |'''Butler County Cemetery Inventory, West Liberty Cemetery''', Brady Twp. <br>Hines, Margaret, 07-04-1824, 10-15-1892, Wife of William Hines.<br>Hines, Robert C., 1857 - 1924. <br>Hines, Perry, 1846-1931.<br>Hines, Olive, 1851-1932.<br> Margaret Hines born 7-4-1824, died 10-15-1892, wife of William <br>Robert C. Hines born 1857 died 1924<br>Rebecca Hines d. 03-11-1885, age 41/8/27, wife of Edward Hines. <br> Mary E. Hines d.07-13-1885, daughter of E. & R. Hines.<br> E. Rebecca McDeavitt 1859-1939.<br>John P. Castor, 1858-1927; Sarah M. Castor, 1861-1924; Johnnie Castor, d. 09-28-1897, age 2/4/23, Son of J.P. & S.M. Castor | ||
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| '''1880 United States Federal Census''', Dist 54, Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 17. Census dated 14 June 1880.<br>Lines 30-34: Margret Hines, 58, widow, keeping house; George, 25, farmer; Robert, 23, farm labor; Sarah, 18, keeping house; John, 14, farm labor, in school. All and all parents b. PA. | | '''1880 United States Federal Census''', Dist 54, Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 17. Census dated 14 June 1880.<br>Lines 30-34: Margret Hines, 58, widow, keeping house; George, 25, farmer; Robert, 23, farm labor; Sarah, 18, keeping house; John, 14, farm labor, in school. All and all parents b. PA. | ||
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|'''Butler County Cemetery Inventory, Wolf Creek Cemetery''', Worth Twp.<br>William B. Hines died 3-31-1878 aged 65y<br>Richard Hines d.10-26-1873, age 35. | |'''Butler County Cemetery Inventory, Wolf Creek Cemetery''', Worth Twp.<br>William B. Hines died 3-31-1878 aged 65y<br>Richard Hines d.10-26-1873, age 35. | ||
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|'''20th Century History of Butler & Butler County PA'''1909, by James McKee, p. 861-862, biographical sketch of ''George W. Hines'', gives his grandparents Richard Hines (born Ireland, veteran of Rev. War, received 500 acres in Brady Twp.) and Elizabeth Brandon; George W. Hines' parents William Hines and Margaret Robison, dau. of James Robison. Lists ten children of Wm. & Margaret. | |'''20th Century History of Butler & Butler County PA'''1909, by James McKee, p. 861-862, biographical sketch of ''George W. Hines'', gives his grandparents Richard Hines (born Ireland, veteran of Rev. War, received 500 acres in Brady Twp.) and Elizabeth Brandon; George W. Hines' parents William Hines and Margaret Robison, dau. of James Robison. Lists ten children of Wm. & Margaret. | ||
|[[George W. Hines in 20th Century History of Butler & Butler County PA|(Complete text)]] | |[[George W. Hines in 20th Century History of Butler & Butler County PA|(Complete text)]] | ||
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|'''20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA,''' 1909, by James McKee, p. 1467, biographical sketch of ''James M. Hines''. He was a son of William and Margaret (Robison) Hines. William Hines was born in Brady Township, Butler Co.; he and wife died on their farm in Slippery Rock Township. Of their family of ten children, eight were living in 1909. | |'''20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA,''' 1909, by James McKee, p. 1467, biographical sketch of ''James M. Hines''. He was a son of William and Margaret (Robison) Hines. William Hines was born in Brady Township, Butler Co.; he and wife died on their farm in Slippery Rock Township. Of their family of ten children, eight were living in 1909. | ||
|[[James M. Hines in 20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA|(Complete text)]] | |[[James M. Hines in 20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA|(Complete text)]] | ||
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|'''20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA''', 1909, by James McKee, p. 1390, biographical sketch of William P. Hines. Son of William and Margaret (Robison) Hines, William P. Hines,farmer and merchant at West Liberty, born in Slippery Rock Twp 5 Apr 1846 on the farm now occupied by his brother, G. W. Hines. He married Olive Boyd, born Lawrence Co. PA, raised at Harlansburg, daughter of Jackson & Sarah A. (Nelson) Boyd. Mr. & Mrs Hines are members of West Liberty Methodist Episcopal Church. | |'''20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA''', 1909, by James McKee, p. 1390, biographical sketch of William P. Hines. Son of William and Margaret (Robison) Hines, William P. Hines,farmer and merchant at West Liberty, born in Slippery Rock Twp 5 Apr 1846 on the farm now occupied by his brother, G. W. Hines. He married Olive Boyd, born Lawrence Co. PA, raised at Harlansburg, daughter of Jackson & Sarah A. (Nelson) Boyd. Mr. & Mrs Hines are members of West Liberty Methodist Episcopal Church. | ||
|[[William P Hines in 20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA| (Complete text)]] | |[[William P Hines in 20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA| (Complete text)]] | ||
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| '''Personal correspondence''' from [[Elizabeth Ann Wilson|Elizabeth Wilson Williams]], granddaughter of Bert Winfred Wilson. | | '''Personal correspondence''' from [[Elizabeth Ann Wilson|Elizabeth Wilson Williams]], granddaughter of Bert Winfred Wilson. | ||
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|''' 1850 United States Federal Census''', Slippery Rock Township, Butler County, PA. Date of census 9 Aug. 1850.<br>Dwelling 211-218; Lines 19-26: Richard Hinds age 62, farmer, real estate value $2000, born Down County Ireland; Elizabeth Hinds age 57; children: Thomas age 29, farmer; George H. age 26, farmer; Eli (G?) age 22, farmer; Eleanor J. age 20; Mary E. age 11; Edward age 9. Elizabeth and children all born in PA. Mary E. & Edward in school.<br>Note: Edward B. Hines, born 1841, is a grandson (son of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). | |''' 1850 United States Federal Census''', Slippery Rock Township, Butler County, PA. Date of census 9 Aug. 1850.<br>Dwelling 211-218; Lines 19-26: Richard Hinds age 62, farmer, real estate value $2000, born Down County Ireland; Elizabeth Hinds age 57; children: Thomas age 29, farmer; George H. age 26, farmer; Eli (G?) age 22, farmer; Eleanor J. age 20; Mary E. age 11; Edward age 9. Elizabeth and children all born in PA. Mary E. & Edward in school.<br>Note: Edward B. Hines, born 1841, is a grandson (son of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). | ||
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| '''1860 United States Federal Census''', Brady Township, Butler County, PA, Page 14. Date of census:8 Jun 1860. <br>Lines 25-32 lists ''Richard Hines'', 70, married to ''Elizabeth Hines'', 70, living at the house of their son, ''Thomas Hines'', 38. Also present are five additional children: son ''George Hines'', 35; son ''Elij. Hines'', 33; son ''Edward Hines'', 18; son ''Richard Hines'', 19; and daughter ''Mary Hines'', 21. Thomas is a farmer, George, Elijah, Edward, and the younger Richard are all farm laborers. Everyone was born in PA except for the elder Richard, who was born in Ireland. <br>Note: Edward B. Hines, born 1841 and his brother Richard Hines, born 1839, are grandsons (sons of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). | | '''1860 United States Federal Census''', Brady Township, Butler County, PA, Page 14. Date of census:8 Jun 1860. <br>Lines 25-32 lists ''Richard Hines'', 70, married to ''Elizabeth Hines'', 70, living at the house of their son, ''Thomas Hines'', 38. Also present are five additional children: son ''George Hines'', 35; son ''Elij. Hines'', 33; son ''Edward Hines'', 18; son ''Richard Hines'', 19; and daughter ''Mary Hines'', 21. Thomas is a farmer, George, Elijah, Edward, and the younger Richard are all farm laborers. Everyone was born in PA except for the elder Richard, who was born in Ireland. <br>Note: Edward B. Hines, born 1841 and his brother Richard Hines, born 1839, are grandsons (sons of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). | ||
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| '''1870 United States Federal Census''', Brady Township, Butler County, PA, Page 10, lines 6-11 lists ''Richard Hinez'', 82, married to ''Elizabeth Hinez'', 74, living at the house of their son, ''George Hines'', 43. Also present are three additional children: son ''Richard Hinez'', 30; daughter ''Mary Hinez'', 25[28?]; and son ''Eli Hinez'', 42. George and Richard are farmers, Eli is a common laborer. The elder Richard Hinez's occupation is listed as "infirm." Everyone was born in PA except the elder Richard, who was born in Ireland--his parents are also listed as being of foreign birth. George, Richard, and Eli are listed as having a father of foreign birth, Mary and Elizabeth are not. This census is dated 19 Aug 1870.<br> | | '''1870 United States Federal Census''', Brady Township, Butler County, PA, Page 10, lines 6-11 lists ''Richard Hinez'', 82, married to ''Elizabeth Hinez'', 74, living at the house of their son, ''George Hines'', 43. Also present are three additional children: son ''Richard Hinez'', 30; daughter ''Mary Hinez'', 25[28?]; and son ''Eli Hinez'', 42. George and Richard are farmers, Eli is a common laborer. The elder Richard Hinez's occupation is listed as "infirm." Everyone was born in PA except the elder Richard, who was born in Ireland--his parents are also listed as being of foreign birth. George, Richard, and Eli are listed as having a father of foreign birth, Mary and Elizabeth are not. This census is dated 19 Aug 1870.<br> | ||
Note: Richard Hines, born 1839, is a grandsons (son of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). | Note: Richard Hines, born 1839, is a grandsons (son of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). | ||
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− | + | * Daughter Margaret Jane Hines married Albert Hay. Per the Butler County Cemetery Inventory, there is a Hay family plot at West Liberty cemetery, with stones for 6 individuals, only one with legible dates: James A. Hay,(possibly Albert?); Minnie; Charlie; Ameldia; Jane M.; Minnie R. died 9-13-1875 age 1/10/13, dau. of J. & M.J. (James & Margaret Jane?). | |
− | Daughter Margaret Jane Hines married Albert Hay. Per the Butler County Cemetery Inventory, there is a Hay family plot at West Liberty cemetery, with stones for 6 individuals, only one with legible dates: James A. Hay,(possibly Albert?); Minnie; Charlie; Ameldia; Jane M.; Minnie R. died 9-13-1875 age 1/10/13, dau. of J. & M.J. (James & Margaret Jane?). | + | |
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Revision as of 09:44, 11 February 2008
Date | Location | Notes | Sources | |
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Birth | 1813 | Brady Twp., Butler Co., PA | ||
Marriage | 1st) Eleanor Douglas ; 2nd) Margaret Robison | |||
Death | 31 Mar. 1878 | Slippery Rock Twp., Butler Co. PA | ||
Burial | Wolf Creek Cemetery, Worth Twp., Butler Co.PA | near western edge of cemetery |
Ancestry chart segment
Generation 5 Generation 6 Generation 7 +-- Richard Hines | (1751-1854) +-- Richard Hines, Jr. --+ | (1782-1876) | William Boston Hines --+ +-- Jane [unknown] (1813-1878) | (????-????) +-- Elizabeth Brandon (1792-1879)
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Children
Children with Eleanor Douglas
Name | Gender | Date of Birth | Birthplace | Spouse | Notes | Sources |
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Richard Hines | M | 7 Jan 1839 | Butler Co. PA | [8][9][10] | ||
Edward B. Hines | M | 31 Mar. 1841 | Rebecca Hoge | Butler Co. PA | [8][9][10] |
Children with Margaret Robinson
Name | Gender | Date of Birth | Birthplace | Spouse | Notes | Sources |
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William Perry Hines | M | 5 Apr. 1846 | Butler Co. PA | Olive Boyd | ||
Mary Elizabeth Hines | F | 16 Aug. 1847 | Butler Co. PA | William McQuiston | ||
James Madison Hines | M | 17 July 1848 | Butler Co. PA | 1) Sarah Cornelius ; 2) Hannah Marie Reed | ||
Susanna (Lulou) Hines | F | 10 Mar 1851 | Butler Co. PA | John McCamant | ||
Margaret Jane Hines | F | 3 Sept. 1853 | Butler Co. PA | Albert Hay | ||
George Washington Hines | M | 13 May 1855 | Butler Co. PA | 1) Sadie Cooper ; 2) Myrtle Taylor | ||
Robert Cass Hines | M | 1857 | Butler Co. PA | |||
Eleanor Rebecca Hines | F | 1859 | Butler Co. PA | Unknown McDeavitt | ||
Sarah Melvina Hines | F | 18 Dec. 1861 | Butler Co. PA | John P. Castor | ||
John A. Hines | M | 6 Mar. 1866 | Butler Co. PA | (died at age 19) |
Places of Residence
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Brady & Slippery Rock Twp.s,Butler County PA | 1813-1878 |
Photo Gallery
Gravestones of
* Richard Hines (child of William Boston Hines and Eleanor Douglas)
* James M. Hines & wife Sarah (son & Dau-in-law of William Boston Hines and Margaret Robinson)
* John A. Hines (son of William Boston Hines and Margaret Robinson)
Photographer: Elizabeth Wilson Williams, Oct 2006
Sources
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1850 United States Federal Census, Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 10. Census dated 1 Aug 1850. |
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2 | 1860 Federal Census butler Co. PA, Slippery Rock Twp.. p. 757, Dwelling No. 14. Date of Census: 6th June 1860. William Hines, age 47 male, farmer; Margarite Hines age 35 female; children: William age 14, Mary age 12, James age 10, Lulou age 8, Margaret age 6, George age 5, Robert age 3, Ellene age 1. All born PA. All children except two youngest attended school. | |
3 | 1870 United States Federal Census, Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 20. Census dated 29 June 1870. Lines 9-20: Wm. Hines, 55, farmer, $2500 real, $795 personal property; Margret, 46, keeping house; Wm., 25, farm labor; Mary E., 22; James, 20, farm labor; Susannah, 18, in school; Margret, 16, in school; Geo. W., 15, farm labor, in school; Robert C., 13, in school; Rebecca, 10, in school; Sarah, 8, in school: John, 4. All born PA. Line 9 lists John, crossed out and Wm. over. Ancestry.com indexes this family name as Henes. |
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4 | Butler County Cemetery Inventory, West Liberty Cemetery, Brady Twp. Hines, Margaret, 07-04-1824, 10-15-1892, Wife of William Hines. Hines, Robert C., 1857 - 1924. Hines, Perry, 1846-1931. Hines, Olive, 1851-1932. Margaret Hines born 7-4-1824, died 10-15-1892, wife of William Robert C. Hines born 1857 died 1924 Rebecca Hines d. 03-11-1885, age 41/8/27, wife of Edward Hines. Mary E. Hines d.07-13-1885, daughter of E. & R. Hines. E. Rebecca McDeavitt 1859-1939. John P. Castor, 1858-1927; Sarah M. Castor, 1861-1924; Johnnie Castor, d. 09-28-1897, age 2/4/23, Son of J.P. & S.M. Castor | |
5 | 1880 United States Federal Census, Dist 54, Slippery Rock Twp, Butler Co, PA, page 17. Census dated 14 June 1880. Lines 30-34: Margret Hines, 58, widow, keeping house; George, 25, farmer; Robert, 23, farm labor; Sarah, 18, keeping house; John, 14, farm labor, in school. All and all parents b. PA. |
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6 | Butler County Cemetery Inventory, Wolf Creek Cemetery, Worth Twp. William B. Hines died 3-31-1878 aged 65y Richard Hines d.10-26-1873, age 35. | |
7 | 20th Century History of Butler & Butler County PA1909, by James McKee, p. 861-862, biographical sketch of George W. Hines, gives his grandparents Richard Hines (born Ireland, veteran of Rev. War, received 500 acres in Brady Twp.) and Elizabeth Brandon; George W. Hines' parents William Hines and Margaret Robison, dau. of James Robison. Lists ten children of Wm. & Margaret. | (Complete text) |
8 | 20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA, 1909, by James McKee, p. 1467, biographical sketch of James M. Hines. He was a son of William and Margaret (Robison) Hines. William Hines was born in Brady Township, Butler Co.; he and wife died on their farm in Slippery Rock Township. Of their family of ten children, eight were living in 1909. | (Complete text) |
9 | 20th Century History of Butler & Butler Co. PA, 1909, by James McKee, p. 1390, biographical sketch of William P. Hines. Son of William and Margaret (Robison) Hines, William P. Hines,farmer and merchant at West Liberty, born in Slippery Rock Twp 5 Apr 1846 on the farm now occupied by his brother, G. W. Hines. He married Olive Boyd, born Lawrence Co. PA, raised at Harlansburg, daughter of Jackson & Sarah A. (Nelson) Boyd. Mr. & Mrs Hines are members of West Liberty Methodist Episcopal Church. | (Complete text) |
10 | Personal correspondence from Elizabeth Wilson Williams, granddaughter of Bert Winfred Wilson. | N/A
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11 | 1850 United States Federal Census, Slippery Rock Township, Butler County, PA. Date of census 9 Aug. 1850. Dwelling 211-218; Lines 19-26: Richard Hinds age 62, farmer, real estate value $2000, born Down County Ireland; Elizabeth Hinds age 57; children: Thomas age 29, farmer; George H. age 26, farmer; Eli (G?) age 22, farmer; Eleanor J. age 20; Mary E. age 11; Edward age 9. Elizabeth and children all born in PA. Mary E. & Edward in school. Note: Edward B. Hines, born 1841, is a grandson (son of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). |
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12 | 1860 United States Federal Census, Brady Township, Butler County, PA, Page 14. Date of census:8 Jun 1860. Lines 25-32 lists Richard Hines, 70, married to Elizabeth Hines, 70, living at the house of their son, Thomas Hines, 38. Also present are five additional children: son George Hines, 35; son Elij. Hines, 33; son Edward Hines, 18; son Richard Hines, 19; and daughter Mary Hines, 21. Thomas is a farmer, George, Elijah, Edward, and the younger Richard are all farm laborers. Everyone was born in PA except for the elder Richard, who was born in Ireland. Note: Edward B. Hines, born 1841 and his brother Richard Hines, born 1839, are grandsons (sons of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). |
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13 | 1870 United States Federal Census, Brady Township, Butler County, PA, Page 10, lines 6-11 lists Richard Hinez, 82, married to Elizabeth Hinez, 74, living at the house of their son, George Hines, 43. Also present are three additional children: son Richard Hinez, 30; daughter Mary Hinez, 25[28?]; and son Eli Hinez, 42. George and Richard are farmers, Eli is a common laborer. The elder Richard Hinez's occupation is listed as "infirm." Everyone was born in PA except the elder Richard, who was born in Ireland--his parents are also listed as being of foreign birth. George, Richard, and Eli are listed as having a father of foreign birth, Mary and Elizabeth are not. This census is dated 19 Aug 1870. Note: Richard Hines, born 1839, is a grandsons (son of Wm. Boston Hines' 1st marriage). |
Source notes
- Daughter Margaret Jane Hines married Albert Hay. Per the Butler County Cemetery Inventory, there is a Hay family plot at West Liberty cemetery, with stones for 6 individuals, only one with legible dates: James A. Hay,(possibly Albert?); Minnie; Charlie; Ameldia; Jane M.; Minnie R. died 9-13-1875 age 1/10/13, dau. of J. & M.J. (James & Margaret Jane?).